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Showing posts with label lead. Show all posts
Showing posts with label lead. Show all posts
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Wednesday, June 16, 2010
From an EPA worker: home owners, contractors and real estate - careys research on the EPA lead law
Friends,
I am continuing on about the EPA law concerning pre-1978 homes. It is vital that I do.
Its one thing to have liberties and freedoms taken away out side of home, you can always retreat to your house, after all a mans home is his castle - right? But more and more property and homeowner rights have come under attack. Once this basic right is gone where does a person go?
I have been pounding away at educating people of the Fourth Amendment for 2 years since Euclid came after me concerning the rental houses I own. I warned you back then what next a residency permit to live in your own house? Well wake up, it can't be that far off if we don't do something now to protect property rights.
Read below what a friend sent me. She emailed my rant about the replacement windows to her cousin who works for the EPA. This is her cousins reply. I will comment in a follow up email plus I have more info from Wayne and what he is trying to do do repeal the lead law.
Carey Masci
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I work for Ohio EPA, not U.S. EPA, but this is true for the most part. You actually don't have to have a certified installer, but if you don't use one, it could hurt you later when you try to sell your home. The issue isn't the window, it's the lead paint that was used until 1978. Lead is a very hazardous substance and causes mental and neurological problems in chlidren. Many children have been poisoned over the years from exposure to lead paint in older homes and apartments.
Here's an article:http://content.usatoday.com/communities/greenhouse/post/2010/03/lack-of-epa-certified-workers-could-stall-home-remodeling/1 . Or go to U.S. EPA's web site and do some research.
Frankly, I personally wouldn't do much renovation work on a home that might contain lead paint. I offered to paint the out buildings on grandpa's farm last year. The new people moving in want the buildings scraped and painted. I told mom I wouldn't go near scraping those buildings and they should hire a pro company because I'm sure there is lead-based exterior paint underneath the outer layer of paint.
If your friend is renting or selling a property, the federal real estate law already requires him to verify that it is free of lead paint, or disclose if the residence DOES contain lead paint. Here is information on that:http://www.hud.gov/offices/lead/enforcement/disclosure.cfm
Here's another good brochure: http://www.epa.gov/lead/pubs/leadpdfe.pdf
Feel free to forward this to your friend. He should be able to buy the windows and install them himself, especially if he is going to live there. He would just be risking losing money on the sale if he ever tries to sell it. I also think he would be risking a lawsuit if he doesn't take steps to make sure the property is either lead-free, or use a certified installer to do the work and take care of the lead paint in the process. What if there is lead and he rents it to someone with kids and the kids get lead poisoning? It's a big liability issue and, speaking peronally, for the cost of a few hundred dollars more, it would be worth having the peace of mind.
I'm sorry he thinks it's socialism - unless protecting children and society at large from hazardous material is socialism. He's free to poison himself if he wants, but not someone else. I'd think we are past the days of landlords being free to exploit renters in unsafe housing.
Wednesday, June 09, 2010
continuing on about the EPA lead law because of its direct impact on property
Friends, I am continuing on about the EPA lead law because of its direct impact on property rights. Please read these posting, these laws will affect you.
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Wayne is a friend who lives in Pa. and is active on Capital Hill for vet rights. Below is his thoughts:
Carey,
I agree with your appallment of the requirement to check for lead in homes built before 1978. What this needs is a conserted effort by contractors that have expressed their limiting them taking jobs on homes older than 1978. Soon, this legislation will also include industrial buildings as well. If the present industrial site has given employment for the last 50 years and wants to revamp and expand by redoing or rebuilding...this could pose a rethink of hiring or even doing this at all. What these people think is that this is good, yet they waited years for this to be put inplace.... How urgent was that?
Now back to the residential homes.... You and I both live in areas of the cities that were put together in the late 19th and early 20th century..... Key word is CENTURY!!! We are now expected to pay for the legal activities of those who came before us??? Another point.... I was raised and still live in a home that is 100 years old. There has to be lead somewhere....from interior to the paint on the outside. So...I am also a Baby Boomer.... we had the LARGEST percentage of people who innovated and invented, from scotch tape, velcro, superglue, to Space Travel and Computers. Does that sound like a generation of people who were conversely affected by Lead Paint?? I would match my High School Diploma of 1966 against any 2 year( and more ) degree from College that any Burger Slinger has today. What we are basing this all on is the Government allowing Slumlords to kennel up low income families in sub level living quarters. Kids who would actually eat the paint chips... ( I never recalled eating any but I am sure PIKA affected snot bubble kids and even some pregnant women have.)
As far as this is all concerned, I think the Government efforts are better served to stop the proliferation of Cadmium laced McDonalds glasses. Our homes have become liabilies to us when we want to fix or sell them. Thus this increases the cost to stay in them or less money at resale.... making our economy slide even faster into this Government directed abyss. We have given and accepted the fact that NON ELECTED ENTITIES can make policy and OMG... LAW!! EPA is the worst of the agencies as is DEP. Even WHO has been shown to have money involved in the Pharm Companies that made H1N1 innoculations while claiming falsely, of the PANDEMIC!!!! I saw this crap with the first Swine Flu Scare... in the 70s.
I also found out.... I think you may have gotten some bad info. You as the home owner, can buy those windows and install them by your own means. I have installed them and it takes about an hour on the high side. I am sure you can find some "guys" who can do the work as "friends" who you would give a certain amount of Monetary "Barter". I think this BS law only affects Contractors, not individuals.
I am checking here in PA for something similar and as of yet it seems to be State Generated. I could be wrong but there has to be an outcry to the politcians and the shakiness of a revote....
Wayne
And Wayne wrote back today with:
Since this I contacted my local legislators and it wasn't in lights here (Pa.) but it is part of the FED EPA and as of yet, no one is pushing. I expressed basically the things I gave you to them and one has responded that they will look into this. They were involved in killing the Feds stopping the tolling of I-80 so there is no reason they can't band together again.
Lets hope Wayne is right or you may find yourself in a battle as I was with Euclid fighting fines and jail time for protecting my property rights.
Carey Masci
PS: I told you this was coming!
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Wayne is a friend who lives in Pa. and is active on Capital Hill for vet rights. Below is his thoughts:
Carey,
I agree with your appallment of the requirement to check for lead in homes built before 1978. What this needs is a conserted effort by contractors that have expressed their limiting them taking jobs on homes older than 1978. Soon, this legislation will also include industrial buildings as well. If the present industrial site has given employment for the last 50 years and wants to revamp and expand by redoing or rebuilding...this could pose a rethink of hiring or even doing this at all. What these people think is that this is good, yet they waited years for this to be put inplace.... How urgent was that?
Now back to the residential homes.... You and I both live in areas of the cities that were put together in the late 19th and early 20th century..... Key word is CENTURY!!! We are now expected to pay for the legal activities of those who came before us??? Another point.... I was raised and still live in a home that is 100 years old. There has to be lead somewhere....from interior to the paint on the outside. So...I am also a Baby Boomer.... we had the LARGEST percentage of people who innovated and invented, from scotch tape, velcro, superglue, to Space Travel and Computers. Does that sound like a generation of people who were conversely affected by Lead Paint?? I would match my High School Diploma of 1966 against any 2 year( and more ) degree from College that any Burger Slinger has today. What we are basing this all on is the Government allowing Slumlords to kennel up low income families in sub level living quarters. Kids who would actually eat the paint chips... ( I never recalled eating any but I am sure PIKA affected snot bubble kids and even some pregnant women have.)
As far as this is all concerned, I think the Government efforts are better served to stop the proliferation of Cadmium laced McDonalds glasses. Our homes have become liabilies to us when we want to fix or sell them. Thus this increases the cost to stay in them or less money at resale.... making our economy slide even faster into this Government directed abyss. We have given and accepted the fact that NON ELECTED ENTITIES can make policy and OMG... LAW!! EPA is the worst of the agencies as is DEP. Even WHO has been shown to have money involved in the Pharm Companies that made H1N1 innoculations while claiming falsely, of the PANDEMIC!!!! I saw this crap with the first Swine Flu Scare... in the 70s.
I also found out.... I think you may have gotten some bad info. You as the home owner, can buy those windows and install them by your own means. I have installed them and it takes about an hour on the high side. I am sure you can find some "guys" who can do the work as "friends" who you would give a certain amount of Monetary "Barter". I think this BS law only affects Contractors, not individuals.
I am checking here in PA for something similar and as of yet it seems to be State Generated. I could be wrong but there has to be an outcry to the politcians and the shakiness of a revote....
Wayne
And Wayne wrote back today with:
Since this I contacted my local legislators and it wasn't in lights here (Pa.) but it is part of the FED EPA and as of yet, no one is pushing. I expressed basically the things I gave you to them and one has responded that they will look into this. They were involved in killing the Feds stopping the tolling of I-80 so there is no reason they can't band together again.
Lets hope Wayne is right or you may find yourself in a battle as I was with Euclid fighting fines and jail time for protecting my property rights.
Carey Masci
PS: I told you this was coming!
Wednesday, June 02, 2010
home owners, contractors and realtors - careys research on the EPA lead law
Friends, my email titled I can't believe this..... really hit home. I received lots of feedback and links to this new EPA law. You need to read this carefully if you are a home owner, prospective home buyer, contractor or into real estate, I guess that would include just about everyone.
My comments are in red. I will be sending another email soon from someone in the EPA.
Carey
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A huge problem with this country is it’s need to certify and permit everything under the sun. Someone may point to the old snake oil salesmen etc and protection from scams but it is a huge problem that an agency that is not elected can actually have the force of law.
At the EPA site, they also have an official “rat someone out” hotline. Now tell me that doesn’t sound like Nazi Germany.
Maryanne
Think about this.... 1978 is 32 years ago.... Do you know how much time that is? They are chasing a dinosaur! I am sure a lot of these houses don't even have the original paint or windows but if they do they probably have been altered and/or modified over the years. If it was so dangerous get everyone out of their houses - NOW.
Q. What is the new EPA Law? A. In summary, the law states that all renovators and maintenance professionals that work in housing, childcare facilities and schools built prior to 1978 that are removing or disturbing more than six square feet of lead-based paint in a room or twenty square feet on the exterior must be trained and certified in the handling, clean up and disposal of these materials.
http://www.dwmmag.com/index.php/will-lead-weigh-down-a-window-industry-recovery/
http://www.remodeling.hw.net/lead-paint/rrp-rule-frequently-asked-questions.aspx#RRP1
http://www.epa.gov/lead/pubs/rrpfactsheet2008.htm
Seems like this is a rule by the EPA. The bigger question may be: how is an unelected body able to force contractors to comply? UNELECTED WOULD BE THE OPERATIVE WORD HERE. Read the final line at the EPA site
Maryanne
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It passed in 2008, went into effect 2010, basically so you don't disturb lead-based paint. There might be a loophole if there is no one under 6 yrs of age living in the home, Im not sure. You can be certified after a 8 hr course.
http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=371216
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=4a16ed14-802a-23ad-43e5-85f25fbdf66e
http://www.epa.gov/fedrgstr/EPA-TOX/2008/April/Day-22/t8141.htm
EPA Requirements
Common renovation activities like sanding, cutting, and demolition can create hazardous lead dust and chips by disturbing lead-based paint, which can be harmful to adults and children.
To protect against this risk, on April 22, 2008, EPA issued a rule requiring the use of lead-safe practices and other actions aimed at preventing lead poisoning. Under the rule, beginning April 22, 2010, contractors performing renovation, repair and painting projects that disturb lead-based paint in homes, child care facilities, and schools built before 1978 must be certified and must follow specific work practices to prevent lead contamination.
EPA requires that firms performing renovation, repair, and painting projects that disturb lead-based paint in pre-1978 homes, child care facilities and schools be certified by EPA and that they use certified renovators who are trained by EPA-approved training providers to follow lead-safe work practices. Individuals can become certified renovators by taking an eight-hour training course from an EPA-approved training provider. Learn how to become an EPA certified firm and where to take a training course near you.
Sharon
OK think about this.... April 2008 was when this law was made and now it is being enforced. IF it was so crucial and dangerous why did they wait the 2 years? C'mon people wake up.
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i dont read it that way. it says "CONTRACTORS" have to be certified. YOU aren't a contracter. you are a private individual.
if you still read it your way, that would mean everyone would have to hire a contracter to put a window in their own home. i've gone to lowes and 84 lumber,etc. here and bought windows without question. my electrician installed them. he is skilled at everything, but not certified.KRISTINE
The place I called here in Cleveland will not sell windows, I have to have them install the windows. YES as I said a place like Lowes and Home Depot you may be able to get away with it.
Your electrician can get away with it, read - get away with it also BUT IF the government finds out and wants to, he can be severly fined because he is a contractor that did not get the new certification.
Also the wording is tricky, if you live in your home you can still install them. Does this nonsense make sense? I live in my house so its less dangerous? THIS IS NOTHING BUT GOVERNMENT CONTROL OF THE HOUSING MARKET.
Furthermore, what about someone as myself, who has rental property. Am I in violation? I don't live there so does that mean I can't instal windows? Or paint?
Laws this broad, vague and intrusive is scary.
Another thing is cost. Windows will cost more to install because contractors need to be certified and that costs money for training AND if there is lead in the windows or frames will they be deemed hazardous? Will you need Hazmat to haul away your debris? Where will this end? Bad bill!
I would just install them anyway. No one has to know.
Bob
And what happens if the Feds want to inspect? Will I be fined and or jailed?
I haven't heard anything about it here. Not good for you, but hope it's only Ohio. ;-( John in Maine
Unfortunately no John. No one that I spoke with was aware of this bill either. Why weren't we informed of this legislation? How does something THAT CONTROLS your house or property get put into law without our knowledge? It should be buyer beware. If a person is so fearful of lead let them buy elsewhere or have it inspected at their expense. I myself could care less.
Wait till Euclid gets their hands on this.
Just remember my plight with Euclid, it looks like the Feds will be doing the same but worse.
Be afraid very afraid of a bill like this! Home owner rights are going to be a thing of the past.
Carey Masci
My comments are in red. I will be sending another email soon from someone in the EPA.
Carey
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
A huge problem with this country is it’s need to certify and permit everything under the sun. Someone may point to the old snake oil salesmen etc and protection from scams but it is a huge problem that an agency that is not elected can actually have the force of law.
At the EPA site, they also have an official “rat someone out” hotline. Now tell me that doesn’t sound like Nazi Germany.
Maryanne
Think about this.... 1978 is 32 years ago.... Do you know how much time that is? They are chasing a dinosaur! I am sure a lot of these houses don't even have the original paint or windows but if they do they probably have been altered and/or modified over the years. If it was so dangerous get everyone out of their houses - NOW.
Q. What is the new EPA Law? A. In summary, the law states that all renovators and maintenance professionals that work in housing, childcare facilities and schools built prior to 1978 that are removing or disturbing more than six square feet of lead-based paint in a room or twenty square feet on the exterior must be trained and certified in the handling, clean up and disposal of these materials.
http://www.dwmmag.com/index.php/will-lead-weigh-down-a-window-industry-recovery/
http://www.remodeling.hw.net/lead-paint/rrp-rule-frequently-asked-questions.aspx#RRP1
http://www.epa.gov/lead/pubs/rrpfactsheet2008.htm
Seems like this is a rule by the EPA. The bigger question may be: how is an unelected body able to force contractors to comply? UNELECTED WOULD BE THE OPERATIVE WORD HERE. Read the final line at the EPA site
Maryanne
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
It passed in 2008, went into effect 2010, basically so you don't disturb lead-based paint. There might be a loophole if there is no one under 6 yrs of age living in the home, Im not sure. You can be certified after a 8 hr course.
http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=371216
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=4a16ed14-802a-23ad-43e5-85f25fbdf66e
http://www.epa.gov/fedrgstr/EPA-TOX/2008/April/Day-22/t8141.htm
EPA Requirements
Common renovation activities like sanding, cutting, and demolition can create hazardous lead dust and chips by disturbing lead-based paint, which can be harmful to adults and children.
To protect against this risk, on April 22, 2008, EPA issued a rule requiring the use of lead-safe practices and other actions aimed at preventing lead poisoning. Under the rule, beginning April 22, 2010, contractors performing renovation, repair and painting projects that disturb lead-based paint in homes, child care facilities, and schools built before 1978 must be certified and must follow specific work practices to prevent lead contamination.
EPA requires that firms performing renovation, repair, and painting projects that disturb lead-based paint in pre-1978 homes, child care facilities and schools be certified by EPA and that they use certified renovators who are trained by EPA-approved training providers to follow lead-safe work practices. Individuals can become certified renovators by taking an eight-hour training course from an EPA-approved training provider. Learn how to become an EPA certified firm and where to take a training course near you.
Sharon
OK think about this.... April 2008 was when this law was made and now it is being enforced. IF it was so crucial and dangerous why did they wait the 2 years? C'mon people wake up.
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i dont read it that way. it says "CONTRACTORS" have to be certified. YOU aren't a contracter. you are a private individual.
if you still read it your way, that would mean everyone would have to hire a contracter to put a window in their own home. i've gone to lowes and 84 lumber,etc. here and bought windows without question. my electrician installed them. he is skilled at everything, but not certified.KRISTINE
The place I called here in Cleveland will not sell windows, I have to have them install the windows. YES as I said a place like Lowes and Home Depot you may be able to get away with it.
Your electrician can get away with it, read - get away with it also BUT IF the government finds out and wants to, he can be severly fined because he is a contractor that did not get the new certification.
Also the wording is tricky, if you live in your home you can still install them. Does this nonsense make sense? I live in my house so its less dangerous? THIS IS NOTHING BUT GOVERNMENT CONTROL OF THE HOUSING MARKET.
Furthermore, what about someone as myself, who has rental property. Am I in violation? I don't live there so does that mean I can't instal windows? Or paint?
Laws this broad, vague and intrusive is scary.
Another thing is cost. Windows will cost more to install because contractors need to be certified and that costs money for training AND if there is lead in the windows or frames will they be deemed hazardous? Will you need Hazmat to haul away your debris? Where will this end? Bad bill!
I would just install them anyway. No one has to know.
Bob
And what happens if the Feds want to inspect? Will I be fined and or jailed?
I haven't heard anything about it here. Not good for you, but hope it's only Ohio. ;-( John in Maine
Unfortunately no John. No one that I spoke with was aware of this bill either. Why weren't we informed of this legislation? How does something THAT CONTROLS your house or property get put into law without our knowledge? It should be buyer beware. If a person is so fearful of lead let them buy elsewhere or have it inspected at their expense. I myself could care less.
Wait till Euclid gets their hands on this.
Just remember my plight with Euclid, it looks like the Feds will be doing the same but worse.
Be afraid very afraid of a bill like this! Home owner rights are going to be a thing of the past.
Carey Masci
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